Aim Bots

Originally Posted by Gingir

I agree, sorry if the wording confused you.

Cheers Gingir, I did misunderstand you.

Originally Posted by Scott Morrison

I'm not sure if you are still disagreeing with me or not. Try it in game. I've had plenty of headshots that were not kills.

Your stats

Rank: 40
Kills: 4244
HeadShots: 818

My stats
Kills: 9163
HeadShots: 1106

The possible cheater

KIlls: 1799
HeadShots: 1796

As u can see the headshots represent the "KILLS with headshot" because i make it more than 1106 impacts on the head

Originally Posted by Gingir

/tongue in cheek

That Arcadenut is totally a hacker! Always pwning my face.

Not my fault you keep getting in the way of my bullets


To others, if you do report someone via PM, we can investigate the issue and if they are cheating, catch them. We can look at the data on the server and if they are playing while we are playing, we can record the game as well.

Originally Posted by ALIENSPAIN

Your stats

Rank: 40
Kills: 4244
HeadShots: 818

My stats
Kills: 9163
HeadShots: 1106

The possible cheater

KIlls: 1799
HeadShots: 1796

As u can see the headshots represent the "KILLS with headshot" because i make it more than 1106 impacts on the head

We may be losing something in translation here.

Yes, it is suspicious. But not every headshot kills, they may just be a good shot. New to SGR does not mean new to gaming after all - I doubt it's the first Third Person Shooter any of us have played - they may be ranked number 1 somewhere else.

If there shots fired is also very low though - that's even more suspicious and more likely they are a cheat.

Report your suspicions to the Devs and let them find out is all I am saying. I am not disagreeing with your suspicions.

Rank:446,
Kills: 24,
Headshoots: 12,
accuaracy: 5.98%

Originally Posted by ALIENSPAIN

Your stats

Rank: 40
Kills: 4244
HeadShots: 818

My stats
Kills: 9163
HeadShots: 1106

The possible cheater

KIlls: 1799
HeadShots: 1796

As u can see the headshots represent the "KILLS with headshot" because i make it more than 1106 impacts on the head

Dude...you simply dont understand (im sry if i miss the point) but "Headshot" does not only count as one-shot kill but also as "hits" on the headarea with other weapons.

Therefore it could be possible that this guy made 5 hs with sniper rifle and 1791 hs with P90 without killing the enemie once. Checked?

Originally Posted by lasarith

Rank:446,
Kills: 24,
Headshoots: 12,
accuaracy: 5.98%

Now on 28 kills as sniper,

but the above 12 headshoots- dont rember aiming for the head, though i will now

It is very apparent the person you reference is always trying to headshot with the P-90, the head hitbox is rather small so the guy misses a lot(he has less then a 10% hit rating), but because he tends to aim more at the head he racks up a lot of headshots.

Repeat after me, Any bullet that hits the head counts as a headshot even if the person you shoot lives. And it is actually possible to have more headshots then kills.

Originally Posted by Fumbles

It is very apparent the person you reference is always trying to headshot with the P-90, the head hitbox is rather small so the guy misses a lot(he has less then a 10% hit rating), but because he tends to aim more at the head he racks up a lot of headshots.

Repeat after me, Any bullet that hits the head counts as a headshot even if the person you shoot lives. And it is actually possible to have more headshots then kills.

This mean the stats are wrong because in all games the headshots only count when u kill with one headshot

Originally Posted by ALIENSPAIN

This mean the stats are wrong because in all games the headshots only count when u kill with one headshot

No, mate. You are wrong.

A headshot simply means you shot someone in the head. Only a headshot with the Commando sniper rifle is a one shot kill. If you shoot someone with the P90 - or the pistol as I know you heavily favour the Scientist Class – you just deal more damage (1.5 times the normal damage). You do not just kill them outright.

Originally Posted by Fumbles

And it is actually possible to have more headshots then kills.

As Fumbles says, not only CAN you have more headshots than kills, at least one person DOES.

As we are talking around in circles here, please behold the Screen Print Of Proof:

I believe some people use bots, I recently ran into a few guys which were good and I mean 100 per cent never missed .... not even grazed ....

I'm not sure how many of you played Counter Strike during its earlier years, back before it was as secure as it is now, but here are some general tips I've picked up on for determining Aim bot users:


1. They shoot at an invincible target and will not stop shooting at it (perhaps in SGR this would be a shielded Goa'uld vs. Soldier using only P90)

2. You can trick out most Aim Bots by rapidly strafing left and right (not moving more then a foot before changing direction) the aim bot will calculate where you are moving, and due to the rapid strafing will not be able to hit you.

3. (this would not so much be an Aim Bot as a plain out Hack) "Curving bullets" or invisible bullets hitting you through walls (keep latency in mind though, as due to high ping people may hit you with bullets 1-2 sec after you are behind cover).

4. Look for quirky redundancies in behavior over a significant period of time, especially in tactics that do not work.

5. Instant "Snap Shots" on several occasions (their facing immediately changing direction with no perceptible turn animation)

Personally i have yet to witness anyone who is in conflict of the above, aside from players randomly getting incredibly lucky for short periods of time (not quite enough for me to consider it an Aim Bot).

Originally Posted by Scott Morrison

No, mate. You are wrong.

A headshot simply means you shot someone in the head. Only a headshot with the Commando sniper rifle is a one shot kill. If you shoot someone with the P90 - or the pistol as I know you heavily favour the Scientist Class – you just deal more damage (1.5 times the normal damage). You do not just kill them outright.



As Fumbles says, not only CAN you have more headshots than kills, at least one person DOES.

As we are talking around in circles here, please behold the Screen Print Of Proof:

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No, I do believe he is correct, it is supposed to represent headshot kills. not shots to the head.

Do not trust SGR stats (not the website either) the stats recording in game is messed up, especially since they changeteam bug. Not everything is recording accurately.

Originally Posted by Rivalen

I'm not sure how many of you played Counter Strike during its earlier years, back before it was as secure as it is now, but here are some general tips I've picked up on for determining Aim bot users:


1. They shoot at an invincible target and will not stop shooting at it (perhaps in SGR this would be a shielded Goa'uld vs. Soldier using only P90)

2. You can trick out most Aim Bots by rapidly strafing left and right (not moving more then a foot before changing direction) the aim bot will calculate where you are moving, and due to the rapid strafing will not be able to hit you.

3. (this would not so much be an Aim Bot as a plain out Hack) "Curving bullets" or invisible bullets hitting you through walls (keep latency in mind though, as due to high ping people may hit you with bullets 1-2 sec after you are behind cover).

4. Look for quirky redundancies in behavior over a significant period of time, especially in tactics that do not work.

5. Instant "Snap Shots" on several occasions (their facing immediately changing direction with no perceptible turn animation)

Personally i have yet to witness anyone who is in conflict of the above, aside from players randomly getting incredibly lucky for short periods of time (not quite enough for me to consider it an Aim Bot).

Thank you Rivalen for the good advice It is very helpful for the community.

Originally Posted by zainea13

No, I do believe he is correct, it is supposed to represent headshot kills. not shots to the head.

Do not trust SGR stats (not the website either) the stats recording in game is messed up, especially since they changeteam bug. Not everything is recording accurately.

When I shoot someone in the head with the P90 it deals 15 damage rather than the usual 10. With the exception of the sniper rifle one hit kill headshots, shooting a player in the head will deal one and a half times the usual damage of that weapon. That is definitely all it will do I'm afraid.

I'm aware others have had issues with their time played stats but I have not noticed any with mine, i didn't know people were having other issues. I never exploited the change team bug so mine should hopefully be okay.

Originally Posted by Arcadenut

Not my fault you keep getting in the way of my bullets

Why are you shooting bullets? Shouldn't you be Gooooold??

From wikiquote:

Vala: You ever heard of the Go'auld Nut?
Dr. Jackson: As in... cashew? Pea-...? [off Vala's look] Oh, you mean the Egyptian sky goddess.
Vala: Yes.
Dr. Jackson: No, never heard of her.
Vala: These were her ceremonial marriage bracelets. She would affix them to herself and her husband of the moment.
Dr. Jackson: "Of the moment".
Vala: Yes, she had many. One of the few admirable traits about her.

Originally Posted by realazthat

Why are you shooting bullets?

Because throwing them doesn't work very well?

Shouldn't you be Gooooold??

Only if I want to die a lot