Some things about the rules and other things

Well i was playing with 1 dev that its more worried with the "bad words" than the glitchers, exploiters, buggers, etc... or spawn campers (Or both in some cases)

I don´t say that he can be permissive with the bad words but read "Be creative with bad words and i will ban you" and see constantly in the match exploiters using the "Not cool down turret" (in my defense i can say only plant turret when i see someone shooting to this and i´m lagged as all know, its only a bad coincidence) and spawn campers making they all like its a really bad thing...

I reported some buggers and spawn campers using in some cases "Screenshots" and doesn´t happen, they continue having spawn camp and exploiting the game, making it unfair...

How can explain some ppl "i ban u for say Fuc.k but i don´t ban u for exploit the game"????

As some can see it this last weeks i´m not playing because play with constant lag, being killed inside your spawn camp or being killed by Ashrak Knife bug its really bored and frustrating

I don´t know the motivations to make this game... but if is "Win some money", "Win money" or "Than fans can play a good official Stargate game" are loosing this battle by some points:

1- don´t try make a solution of the "lag issues" (Just make 1 or 2 European servers)

2- if this new patch have the bug of "not turret cooldown", "The game restart when match end", "The conquest points don´t appear", "The rank work bad because don´t appear the real rank"... FIX IT FAST, if can´t fix all bugs... make little patches that fix some concrete bugs... we can download perfectly little patches if this does mean we can play better

3- The word restriction need reconsideration (only some words) if someone say "Hello" don´t need appear "###o" if don´t like appear "####" only fix as this "#### "

4- BAN the buggers and spawn campers but Really ban... at less if we send screenshots.. if course not permanently... at less not now

I can say some players that has stopped play the game for 1, 2 or all reasons of this thread

Maybe some can say... "well they have the money now... if don´t like play is their problem.." well, this guy is completely wrong. Why? its simply if the player bought 1 account and play and stop play... this player don´t buy the ACP and/or says to her friends "Don´t buy this game" and her friends don´t buy the game and/or ACP.... this means "Loose money"

In my case have 4 friends than like buy the game and i say "wait more time because the game has a lot of bugs and a lot of lag".

And i supposed the players that has stop playing the game says to her friends the same that i said..

PD. Khestral its only for continue our conversation only say my opinion (and think its a real and very probable opinion)

PPD. Sorry for my english... its difficult writing this boring post directly without translator and without writing this first in my own language

Originally Posted by ALIENSPAIN

Well i was playing with 1 dev that its more worried with the "bad words" than the glitchers, exploiters, buggers, etc... or spawn campers (Or both in some cases)

I don´t say that he can be permissive with the bad words but read "Be creative with bad words and i will ban you" and see constantly in the match exploiters using the "Not cool down turret" (in my defense i can say only plant turret when i see someone shooting to this and i´m lagged as all know, its only a bad coincidence) and spawn campers making they all like its a really bad thing...

I reported some buggers and spawn campers using in some cases "Screenshots" and doesn´t happen, they continue having spawn camp and exploiting the game, making it unfair...

How can explain some ppl "i ban u for say Fuc.k but i don´t ban u for exploit the game"????

As some can see it this last weeks i´m not playing because play with constant lag, being killed inside your spawn camp or being killed by Ashrak Knife bug its really bored and frustrating

I don´t know the motivations to make this game... but if is "Win some money", "Win money" or "Than fans can play a good official Stargate game" are loosing this battle by some points:

1- don´t try make a solution of the "lag issues" (Just make 1 or 2 European servers)

2- if this new patch have the bug of "not turret cooldown", "The game restart when match end", "The conquest points don´t appear", "The rank work bad because don´t appear the real rank"... FIX IT FAST, if can´t fix all bugs... make little patches that fix some concrete bugs... we can download perfectly little patches if this does mean we can play better

3- The word restriction need reconsideration (only some words) if someone say "Hello" don´t need appear "###o" if don´t like appear "####" only fix as this "#### "

4- BAN the buggers and spawn campers but Really ban... at less if we send screenshots.. if course not permanently... at less not now

I can say some players that has stopped play the game for 1, 2 or all reasons of this thread

Maybe some can say... "well they have the money now... if don´t like play is their problem.." well, this guy is completely wrong. Why? its simply if the player bought 1 account and play and stop play... this player don´t buy the ACP and/or says to her friends "Don´t buy this game" and her friends don´t buy the game and/or ACP.... this means "Loose money"

In my case have 4 friends than like buy the game and i say "wait more time because the game has a lot of bugs and a lot of lag".

And i supposed the players that has stop playing the game says to her friends the same that i said..

PD. Khestral its only for continue our conversation only say my opinion (and think its a real and very probable opinion)

PPD. Sorry for my english... its difficult writing this boring post directly without translator and without writing this first in my own language

1. Exploiters do get banned if I am online and I see them and can confirm the exploit. We have banned folks already for speedhacks and other things of this nature.

2. Your creative typing is a deliberate attempt to work around a known filter that is there to protect some of our younger audience and if you take a moment of time you will see this listed in the TOS.

Now to you specific issues:

1- don´t try make a solution of the "lag issues" (Just make 1 or 2 European servers)

This does not happen overnight and it is at the top of our list to get working... All I can say is it is coming.

2- if this new patch have the bug of "not turret cooldown", "The game restart when match end", "The conquest points don´t appear", "The rank work bad because don´t appear the real rank"... FIX IT FAST, if can´t fix all bugs... make little patches that fix some concrete bugs... we can download perfectly little patches if this does mean we can play better

I do not feel the need to have to explain the process we use here to verify fixes before we send them out to you, but we do these verifications quite a bit and we try to get you clean code each time.

3- The word restriction need reconsideration (only some words) if someone say "Hello" don´t need appear "###o" if don´t like appear "####" only fix as this "#### "

Yes we know this and it is logged as a bug... since it does nothing negative on the gameplay we would rather work on bigger bugs for you all...

4- BAN the buggers and spawn campers but Really ban... at less if we send screenshots.. if course not permanently... at less not now

Before I kill someones account I need to verify the infraction, I will not just ban someone if one of you say to do so

Now I really have an issue here on my hands because you made a workaround to say a word that is considered offensive to some folks. Can you not play the game without swearing? What impact to success does swearing bring to the table?

Swearings all the rage yo.

Priorities Alien, priorities. Small teams have to think ahead and fix/edit/change/update the things that affect the most.

While at all times making sure all SGC scum die horrifically

The next patch will have ALOT of Bug Fixes I am positive about this, it won't be to much longer before its released (Probable next week at some point) so hang on in there.

P.S. A lot of Sci's at the mo are using the turret bug, it is very annoying when playing as SL as it is difficult at times to destroy it once let alone 50 odd times one after the other ... there should be an award for that!

Originally Posted by Khestral

1. Exploiters do get banned if I am online and I see them and can confirm the exploit. We have banned folks already for speedhacks and other things of this nature.

2. Your creative typing is a deliberate attempt to work around a known filter that is there to protect some of our younger audience and if you take a moment of time you will see this listed in the TOS.

Now to you specific issues:



This does not happen overnight and it is at the top of our list to get working... All I can say is it is coming.



I do not feel the need to have to explain the process we use here to verify fixes before we send them out to you, but we do these verifications quite a bit and we try to get you clean code each time.



Yes we know this and it is logged as a bug... since it does nothing negative on the gameplay we would rather work on bigger bugs for you all...



Before I kill someones account I need to verify the infraction, I will not just ban someone if one of you say to do so

Now I really have an issue here on my hands because you made a workaround to say a word that is considered offensive to some folks. Can you not play the game without swearing? What impact to success does swearing bring to the table?

1. The solution of the lag is coming since i´m playing this game... on February and are now we are on July. You think someone like play a lagged game during 6 month?

The 60-70% of players are european... if u pass of them you loose this players and future european players

2. You don´t need verify some bugs because u know that this bugs exist only need play 1 second... as the turret cooldown... this bug can be fixed now...

Say turret cooldown but i can say others... the impossibility to place a beacon in the ground... (i have videos only need see it..), the bug of staff and kills on spawn camp, this bug can be fixed fast... if one player are in their spawn camp its invulnerable, when go out from the respawn turn vulnerable... its simply

3. The word restriction i´m sure is a .txt with a list of words or some database with another list of words, only need enter and add an "space" rear the word "####" (by example..)

If you don´t like see in game "Fuc.k" its simply make as other games and add in the word list all possibles derivate words of "####"... if you don´t like make this work tell me and i make a List of this words isn´t a problem for me make a list of "Bad words and possibles derivate"


4. So... if you say "send probes of the exploiters or spawn campers" and i send... what u need verify? the name? how? because only can use 1 name by account, this means If my account 1 its called as "{TM##Agamenon" my account 2 never can be called "{TM##Agamenon", only need search in DB or in the possible logs the account has used the name.

And i don´t say "Permanent ban" only say Ban of few hours (1-4 hours)

Why i can´t exploit the game or make spawn camp but others can use exploits and make spawn camp all time?

Does mean the Screenshots or videos don´t serve for nothing? then... why u say "Send screenshots or videos"?

I have explained our stance on Euro servers, they are coming as soon as we can get them there. So please enough on that topic as I cannot make it happen any faster.

Why i can´t exploit the game or make spawn camp but others can use exploits and make spawn camp all time?

If I see you exploit the game and or use a hack I will ban you. This does not mean just you but this means everyone else who chooses to do something like this.

I could attempt to add every iteration of a foul word into a list but there is not enough time in the world to do so... What I am asking you to do is not attempt to work around the system and basically play like a semi grown up.

Originally Posted by Khestral

I have explained our stance on Euro servers, they are coming as soon as we can get them there. So please enough on that topic as I cannot make it happen any faster.



If I see you exploit the game and or use a hack I will ban you. This does not mean just you but this means everyone else who chooses to do something like this.

I could attempt to add every iteration of a foul word into a list but there is not enough time in the world to do so... What I am asking you to do is not attempt to work around the system and basically play like a semi grown up.

Send probes of ppl making use of exploits and spawn camp and don´t punish... but if someone say a bad word ban.... pffff.... well If like loose players & money go ahead

Respect with euro servers... well i can´t understand how normal players can get "Dedicated servers" for their games so easily and one enterprise can´t

1 server with 16 slots 27€/month (only 1 example)

i never swear or cheat in the game to be ohnest i think you are being a bit to harsch on other people playing for just swearing and cheating you should just ban the account for a certain amount of time according to what the player has done.

its just not right banning someone when they have payed $20 for the game and then they are told that its basically being taken away from them and they have to pay anothere $20 just to play again when they will probably learn their lesson when you ban them for a month or so.

but seriously for swaering you should not even get banned its such a small thing to do you should just prehaps warn them give them a chance if they vialate your rules.i understand that you have to keep curtain precausions so that your game can be rated good for anyone but just try to soften up on the players who do something wrong.

but you guys are doing a great job with the game keep up with the good work i am just giving you some positive critism.

Originally Posted by ALIENSPAIN

Send probes of ppl making use of exploits and spawn camp and don´t punish... but if someone say a bad word ban.... pffff.... well If like loose players & money go ahead

Respect with euro servers... well i can´t understand how normal players can get "Dedicated servers" for their games so easily and one enterprise can´t

1 server with 16 slots 27€/month (only 1 example)

Last time I check Spawn Camping was not against the Fair Play rules. It's annoying.. it's Childish.. but it's a fact of every Shooter type game.

However you looking to find a way to circumvent the Language filter is a issue as there are younger players on.

This is more about respect then anything. If you don't want to deal with a small company working through the client issues with a limited staff then you aren't being practical.

Originally Posted by -=Sokar=-

Last time I check Spawn Camping was not against the Fair Play rules. It's annoying.. it's Childish.. but it's a fact of every Shooter type game.

However you looking to find a way to circumvent the Language filter is a issue as there are younger players on.

This is more about respect then anything. If you don't want to deal with a small company working through the client issues with a limited staff then you aren't being practical.

/agreed

'nuff said

Originally Posted by -=Sokar=-

Last time I check Spawn Camping was not against the Fair Play rules. It's annoying.. it's Childish.. but it's a fact of every Shooter type game.

Ok when u play tell me and i make u spawn camp ok??

I have curiosity of how many times u can die until u say "spawn camp is unfair and must be punished" ok?

There's no way to avoid spawn-camping.
If people start getting punished for it, this game will lose players. I'm sorry, but this is reality.

If the players can´t exit from their spawn 100% sure not play

Until now we loosed:

Whitetiger (I talked with he and say dont play by the lag and bugs)
DeuxViator (dont play by the bugs)
Colonel_J_S (By the lag and bugs)
Punisher (IDK)
Other members of Half-Breed (IDK too)
Im not playing now by the lag.. but yesterday the time i was playing... i see it more lag and MORE bugs...

If in this forum have players than aren´t playing the game by bugs, by the lag or both... please post your name here..

Screenshots and videos can be edited and names can be changed, so I highly doubt they take them as concrete evidence for cheating and look to things, like server logs.

In my opinion if people are that intolerant that they leave the game because of lag and bugs... perhaps we are better off without them.
Its not like the devs sit on their bums and do nothing, they work hard to bring us a better game everyday. They even listen to what we have to say and play the game with us. They aren't miracle workers, things take time to fix.

I know at least 3 people who play under the age of 15. There is no need to find creative ways to get around the chat filters. When we see ####, everyone knows the person is cussing and upset, the reality of that is not going to change if we actually know what cuss word was used.

Spawn camping.. unless there are naughty Jaffa shooting through the spawn door, I don't have issues with the camping. However I'm still confused on why I can't spray poison outside the SGC spawn doors...
I can understand why I can't/shouldn't spray it outside the SL spawn doors (because it would go through the door) but why not on the SGC side??

As for your lag because you are in Europe...
Those of us in Australia play with high ping and lag every day and don't really hope to get Aussie servers.
So count you're blessings that you are getting your own European ones and be patient.

Originally Posted by zuri

However I'm still confused on why I can't spray poison outside the SGC spawn doors...
I can understand why I can't/shouldn't spray it outside the SL spawn doors (because it would go through the door) but why not on the SGC side??

A system was put in place to prevent turret placement around spawn room doors to prevent players from griefing their team by essentially locking players inside since they can't pass the turrets and their team can't explode them. The same volumetric system was utilized to disable poison clouds, most notably on the ramp in the sgc. By coupling the two systems into one volume, the maps save on filesize and function fairly well together.

Zuri... by this use the screenshots... because now they search on the log files

Modify a video its more complicated than simply screenshot.. how u can modify the name of one player if the video have movement?? if was a gif.. well but a video? nothing like make this work only for ban other player...

Not only the jaffa can shoot inside other spawn camp... all classes actually can make it... soldier with the nade launcher dont need go to the door, only need launch a nade to the door for make damage

How u can say "Intolerant" to a players that are playing 6 month with constant lag, bugs and spawn camping...

Maybe some masochist can play with this conditions of continuable form but a normal player can´t... (I don´t say nothing player are masochist... or something ¬¬)

And sure all be better without this "Intolerants" you say... coverall when the game starts don´t be profitable and only play 1 or 2 players and finally devs decide cancel the game or stop working on them... as happen with more than game...

Originally Posted by ALIENSPAIN

Ok when u play tell me and i make u spawn camp ok??

I have curiosity of how many times u can die until u say "spawn camp is unfair and must be punished" ok?

Lol Go ahead try to spawn camp me.. =) you will be pulling my Blade out of your back every time.

Originally Posted by -=Sokar=-

Lol Go ahead try to spawn camp me.. =) you will be pulling my Blade out of your back every time.

Lol poor of you.. if i play as scientist....

Originally Posted by ALIENSPAIN

Lol poor of you.. if i play as scientist....

Asked Firewraith if that stops me =)

Alien,

How would you fix spawn camping then?

There is no way to fix Spawn Camping as far as I can see, it will always exist as it is the point of contact between the oposing teams. The only fix and even then it is not a complete fix, is something which the Developers have already taken into account and implemented, and that is to have more than one exit in the spawn areas, so a big thank you to the Developers and the people who design the maps on that bright idea

Originally Posted by Khestral

Alien,

How would you fix spawn camping then?

Asguard Emergency Beam out tech to beam you to 1 of 3 random areas on your teams side of the base as another exit strategy. So for Temple you have 2 Exits and a transporter to a random 3 areas on SGC side of map. Same for SL on theirs.

Originally Posted by Khestral

Alien,

How would you fix spawn camping then?

I said this before.. and continue saying

Spawn camping its easily fixable, When someone reappears and go away from their spawn camp have 2-5 seconds of Invulnerability or when he dies the spawn killer die with he....

With invulnerability the spawned has the possibility to kill the spawner but maybe not because the killer is more skilled than spawned, and present the problem of can be buggered or hacked.. but with other option has less probability to be buggered and does matter if spawner is better or worst than you because if you are killed, he die..

I prefer the second option because its more simply, efficient and have less probability to be buggered and it works really good

Of course when u are inside your own spawn camp u are invulnerable...

This its being applicate constantly on servers of HL2, CSS, Insurgency, etc... for prevent the spawn campers, and it works, because i don´t see it more spawn campers on those games

Originally Posted by -=Sokar=-

Asked Firewraith if that stops me =)

I dont like to talk about that, its still to recent and emotional... it brings me to tears...

anyways, I do agree, I feel like anything that got rid of spawncamping would actually be worse than the spawncamping itself. People just need to realize that there are multiple ways out of the spawn.

... In court, the 20-30 match i played, in 15 the 3 spawn doors are covered by jaffas, goaulds healing the jaffas and ashraks at spawn doors....

Tell me how u can exit from this situation...

With turrets impossible u plant a turret inmediatly its destroyed, with commando? HA! with this lag u have a lot of luck if make 1 impact with the pistol or sniper, with soldiers? when u approach to your spawn door the blasts of jaffas are draining fast your life.. , scientists? well the poison drain enemy´s life but the goa´uld are healing constantly... so... this means we need other solution.. and this solution is implement a "Anti spawn camping"