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Old 08-13-2010, 12:29 PM   #51
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What has to be done is this. People caught stat padding and if there is a enough evidence the people caught should have their stats reset.
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Old 08-13-2010, 12:35 PM   #52
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ROFL! yes Soccerball!

Bad doom , you know where this topic is gonna go quick.
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:04 PM   #53
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What has to be done is this. People caught stat padding and if there is a enough evidence the people caught should have their stats reset.
Strongly agree. Reset stats, ACHIEVEMENTS, AND unlocked armor.
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:08 PM   #54
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yes yes

and no its football
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:09 PM   #55
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WarKrazed, I'm on BCs TS and will wait for you because I think that way we'd be faster to talk this out. I hate writing if there appears to be a problem that needs to be solved. I want to talk to you about your accusations. You told us that you had a bad day, but I really can't understand where the hate is coming from. So, please enlighten me.

As far as I can remeber, we are not a hate clan and surely don't hate your clan. So, if you accuse us of boasting, then please tell us when and where. We never said that we were better than Banana...although I was not in the Team back then, I know about the many discussions about why a fight was not possible, and why SG-T would have been chanceless. For proof, check our forums, and if you need, use Google Translator. If, however, we were joking and it didn't appear that way, then we're really sorry.

Additionally, it’s not very nice of you to call Serthis the only good player in our team, but if you wish so, do it. It's not all about being the best player or the best team. I'm having fun with other Stargate fans, we're working on better strategies and want to improve, that's what makes it special for me. And I hope, that eventually we'll even have success with it. But I'm not here to play other clans down, certainly not.

But pls, if somebody accuses us of cheating, it would be cool if you could come by and tell us about how you think we are doing it...

Still hope I can talk to you,

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Old 08-13-2010, 01:13 PM   #56
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I don't care if someone is padding but if i join in the server with them I'm gunna blast em! Although I care about my skill/rank I logon to play so you can curse me and leave the server but I'm logging on to kill and win and I may just follow you to another server just for a laugh.
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I agree with Aaron, Night Chrono and Nova. I've played a couple of games recently with players ranked up to Dis'Secu and wearing the Anubis helmet. Veteran player you think, excellent - we're up against a hard team here. But then they use really poor tactics in the match - basic stuff like giving away their position to snipers, not moving, not flash nading or even attempting to use flash nades against a turret. I saw a ranked Goa who didn't seem to know that healing others also healed themselves, charged turrets without their shields on tried to kill turrets with discards when two Jaffa were trying to take them out safely. This would be fine, they are only hurting and cheating themselves - except they got me killed too and their bad tactics led to loses which could otherwise have been wins.

It's not the stat padding matches that worry me, it's what comes after.

I hate suspecting other players now, had I known about stat padding then I would have screenied them and reported them so they could be exonerated or dealt with in whatever way is deemed appropriate.


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Old 08-13-2010, 01:33 PM   #58
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What has to be done is this. People caught stat padding and if there is a enough evidence the people caught should have their stats reset.
i agree, but i have a little adjustment. instead of resetting ALL stats, just reset the beneficial ones. by which i mean, reset the following: kills, exp, wins, ranks, healing given, dmg given, shots hit, headshots, headshot kills, capture points stolen/captured, flags stolen/captured/returned, and interactables claimed. leave the others alone, so that no matter how much longer they play, their stats and ratios will be SHOT forever. devious no?
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:49 PM   #59
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If I see this happening I will Join the opposing faction and Kill. You have been warned. Additionally if you change servers I will chase you.
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If I see this happening I will Join the opposing faction and Kill. You have been warned. Additionally if you change servers I will chase you.
INDEED. I too will hunt you down.
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:54 PM   #61
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If I see this happening I will Join the opposing faction and Kill. You have been warned. Additionally if you change servers I will chase you.
I had tons of fun doing just that this morning.
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Old 08-13-2010, 02:32 PM   #62
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Wow -

If this is true.. then I am sadden by it.. I thought this game was suppose to be about meeting great people, teamwork, fun and tactics, not stats. I am glad Nova you raise the volume level on this issue and I hope the dev do something about it.

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I like to know the answer to question as well?

maybe this explain why I have such a low kill ratio I usually stay to the end of the match, no matter what the odds are and wait for the next round before leaving a server, but I do noticed people leaving the moment the match ends, then coming back in. The only time I suicide myself, if I am having system problem or RL calls.

Maybe the dev really need to change the concept of "individual" stats and add a team k/d variable, which become the most important one to unlock special achievements and to rank up to force more team-oriented focus gameplay - just a thought -.. but I do hope they put a stop to this practice.
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Old 08-13-2010, 02:48 PM   #63
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@ siba, i dont believe i accused you of cheating.....and i already apologized, cant do much more than that..... and will finish the conversation with ya in ts.
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Old 08-13-2010, 03:10 PM   #64
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Thx for the talk Cleared a lot of things. So, 5th, keep up the good work so that you are prepared for the fight against us
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I am glad that the air has been cleared. The air was thick with tension, and I for one do not have a butter knife on me.
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Old 08-13-2010, 04:20 PM   #66
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u cant be mad at siba for long
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Old 08-13-2010, 04:41 PM   #67
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Indeed, unfortunately "text" is easily taken out of context, especially when i go overboard with a bit of nerd rage. Glad we could talk, and for the record i dont think all sgt clan members suck.....that was the nerd rage part and i have apologized to them all.
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Old 08-13-2010, 05:23 PM   #68
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Indeed, unfortunately "text" is easily taken out of context
no way it doesnt does it surely that can never happen..

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and for the record i dont think all sgt clan members suck.
lol had to be in ts for that comment..
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Old 08-13-2010, 06:54 PM   #69
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I agree with Aaron, Night Chrono and Nova. I've played a couple of games recently with players ranked up to Dis'Secu and wearing the Anubis helmet. Veteran player you think, excellent - we're up against a hard team here. But then they use really poor tactics in the match - basic stuff like giving away their position to snipers, not moving, not flash nading or even attempting to use flash nades against a turret. I saw a ranked Goa who didn't seem to know that healing others also healed themselves, charged turrets without their shields on tried to kill turrets with discards when two Jaffa were trying to take them out safely. This would be fine, they are only hurting and cheating themselves - except they got me killed too and their bad tactics led to loses which could otherwise have been wins.

It's not the stat padding matches that worry me, it's what comes after.

I hate suspecting other players now, had I known about stat padding then I would have screenied them and reported them so they could be exonerated or dealt with in whatever way is deemed appropriate.


Also, football.
You can not look at someones skill and say, 'oh your high ranked but your a noob so you stat padded'. Could mean that that person has been playing since day one and has eventually unlocked stuff or got ranks. Some days you play bad some you dont.

And its soccerball A football is a oval shaped ball, kinda like a rugby ball just not so thin and pointy.
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Old 08-13-2010, 07:05 PM   #70
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Sorry for the diouble post, but was just in a game of stat padders... well i think they where.

Is doing 1v1 to get easily get badges considered stat padding? I would think it is right?

If im wrong then im sorry for ruining your game (you know who you are) and stopping you from getting that badge, but i still think these should be earnt.
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Old 08-13-2010, 07:21 PM   #71
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no dude your right .. if poss get a screan shot of them please and send to bctrainers thx

the war on cheaters has started .. LETS MAKE SGR CLEAN
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You can not look at someones skill and say, 'oh your high ranked but your a noob so you stat padded'. Could mean that that person has been playing since day one and has eventually unlocked stuff or got ranks. Some days you play bad some you dont.

And its soccerball A football is a oval shaped ball, kinda like a rugby ball just not so thin and pointy.
No thats an AMERICAN football.

On topic. Yes for achievements is stat padding especially since there are achievements that lead to unlock-ables.
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Old 08-13-2010, 08:51 PM   #73
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I think there needs to be some clarification here...

Achievements -

We all know that there are random achievements that have little to do with any stats and some that have NOTHING to do with stats.

Now I am in no way in favor of stat padding and have never done so. However, we have all spent time playing soccer (football) in the past and probably several other things that were for fun but not game/stat related. Granted, the last soccer game I took part in broke down in mass homicide as soon as the ball went through the gate, but still.

Where does the ruling stand on this? More importantly, if someone is playing by themselves and trying to get a few achievements how is this cheating? They're not sploiting or collaborating. Just taking "advantage", if you will, of an empty map.

I've spent down time running drills and practicing "moves" to improve my game when there is no one else in-game.

Am I cheating? What if I got an achievement while no one was around? Did I cheat to get that?

What if there happens to be a single player from each team on a map doing their own thing and agreeing to stay out of each others way. Are they breaking a rule because they're not going at it?

And before anyone says it, I don't think people goofing around are entitled to hold up any matches or people who want to go at it. The servers are for playing matches.

I just think there may be a few harmless innocent noobs getting caught up in the barrel of bad apples that seem to be spoiling everything.

Anyone?
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The soccer/football isn't cheating to me since it does require more than a few people to accomplish, and with the even teams that has been more recently implemented you need SGC and SL if only because its the only way you and a couple friends will be on the same empty server.

My opinion on achievements is that there is no need to force getting them. I have gotten a good chunk of them just playing. Yes there are some achievements that require planning and thats fine. My problem is when people are trying to get 100 kills for the helmet/black uniform.

I leave soccer/football players alone. Anything else and they will die by my blade.
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i agree, but i have a little adjustment. instead of resetting ALL stats, just reset the beneficial ones. by which i mean, reset the following: kills, exp, wins, ranks, healing given, dmg given, shots hit, headshots, headshot kills, capture points stolen/captured, flags stolen/captured/returned, and interactables claimed. leave the others alone, so that no matter how much longer they play, their stats and ratios will be SHOT forever. devious no?
lol i love it, reset everything but like deaths and suicides. that's awesome!!! o and yes it is rather devious.
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